This is the BBC.

I've always thought one of the most revealing questions you can ask a politician

is what really makes you angry.

I got the idea from David Frost, the legendary host of the Sunday morning sofa for many years.

He asked John Major that question

and to Frost's amazement and pretty much everyone else watching.

The Prime Minister replied,

not about injustice, not about disadvantage.

He said simply,

people being rude to waiters in restaurants.

Now you might think, you know, learn very much from that at all.

I think you learn a huge amount.

That the man who is known as the boy from Brixton,

the man who'd seen his father,

go bankrupt,

and I had to fight to get to the top of British society,

still load the idea that he or anybody else

might be looked down on and told in effect,

know your place.

That question of what makes you angry

is one that I put to this week's podcast guest,

Shadow of Quality's Secretary, Dumbunner.

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