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I am fresh off of the return from Vegas where I was at the Bigger Pockets Conference.

This time is a guest, not as a talent.

And I ran into an old friend, Jeremy Hunter, who attended one of my retreats in Scottsdale, Arizona, and we kind of talked about his business and how to grow. And I got to know the guy. He's really cool. So I'm excited to share him with everybody else today. I think you guys are going to love Jeremy. He's a property manager in Colorado. And he's been all over the place. He's been a real estate a long time. He's been a real estate agent.

He's been an investor. He's managed properties. He's got some good stories. We're going to get into today. So welcome, Jeremy. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for having me. Happy to be here. Yeah. First off, how did you like BPCon? What'd you think? I liked it. You know, it's always good. I've done a conference every year in my entire real estate career, and I always, sometimes you learn more than others. Sometimes you just get reminded things and pick up little things. But it was just great to be around other investors, the energy, catch up with people, get you motivated again. All right. I'm going to ask a real talk, real estate question here. I don't want you to feel pressured, but you're welcome to answer.

Do you think anybody learns anything at conferences today unless they're a brand new,

newbie?

Probably not a lot.

And that's kind of what I went to retreat a few years ago.

That was kind of, that was my first leap to the next level, I guess, because I'd gone to

conferences, like I said, for 20 years, you know, Realtor.com conferences when I was

at Colden Bank or their conferences.

And it's like, you're kind of reading the same book over and over at some point.

So, yeah, like, your retreat was kind of that next level of smaller group, more intimate,

more in depth on bigger picture stuff, not more general, like a, like a conferences. Not that you

can't get a lot of a conference. You can't. But it seems to be, you've been doing them all. Yeah. If you don't know anything about real estate, you're like, wow, this is amazing. And then a couple years in, you start to realize this is just the recycled thing. I've heard somebody else say, you're not necessarily going to learn. You're kind of going for fun.

And then that's why I figured out, this is one of they always do them in fun places. They do it in Vegas. They do it in Florida. They do it in Southern California because it sort of becomes the excuse to go have a good time, but not feel bad about it. You get like what, real estate conferences are the Halloween costumes of the world. Like you get to dress however you

want. No one's going to judge you because it's a costume. Right. Yeah. But the other side, like you said, like I remember the first couple I ever went to like the first couple sales conferences and then first couple real estate conferences. Yeah, when you're new, it's like a fire hose and you're like, well, I don't even know what to do with all this. Yeah. I also think part of it's because there is so much content out there. There used to not be podcasts. There wasn't as many books that were written. So the only way you learned was you either went to a conference or you had a mentor. Now you can have this in your head eight hours a day as you're just driving in your car or whatever. So the information isn't always new. So now you've got to try to figure out a way when you're presenting or you're making a podcast to get the information through. Like, how do I get it to click in your head what it's going to take? Because you've been in real estate a long time and you've seen the patterns of what works and what doesn't work. So let's a good segue into your story. Why don't you start off telling us, I believe it was in Hawaii when you got started. Is that right?

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