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Velshi

The Dangers of Standing up to Vladimir Putin

Velshi

MSNBC

Msnbc, Politics, Weekend News, Ali Velshi, Government, News, News Commentary

4.8687 Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Ali Velshi is joined by head of the Global Magnitsky Justice Campaign Bill Browder, Russian Opposition Politician Vladimir Kara-Murza, The New Yorker’s David Kirkpatrick, Co-Director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital Dr. Peter Hotez

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0:00.0

Good morning. It's Sunday, August the 17th. I'm Ali Valshi. This morning in quick succession,

0:06.4

a coalition of European leaders have announced that they will join Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky

0:11.3

at the White House tomorrow for his meeting with President Donald Trump. As of this hour,

0:15.9

we know that the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, Chancellor of Germany,

0:21.7

Friedrich Murs, NATO Secretary General Mark Ruta, President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, Chancellor of Germany, Friedrich Mers,

0:27.4

NATO Secretary General Mark Ruta, President of Finland, Alexander Stubb, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Kier Starmor, have all announced that they will take part in the meeting.

0:31.7

The Prime Minister of Italy, Georgia Maloney, and the President of France, Emmanuel Macron,

0:35.8

are also reportedly expected to attend.

0:38.4

This is a massive development. It's made Zelensky's meeting with Trump much, much bigger.

0:42.7

President Trump has not yet responded directly to the news of the additional guests who are expected at the White House tomorrow.

0:48.5

But this morning, the U.F. Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff revealed that during Friday's Alaska summit,

0:53.5

Trump and Putin came to an

0:54.9

agreement allowing the U.S. and European nations to offer NATO, quote, Article 5 like protection,

1:02.9

end quote, to Ukraine as part of a security guarantee in a potential final deal. Now, just so we know,

1:10.5

NATO's Article 5 is a mutual defense pact,

1:13.2

which essentially says an attack on one is an attack as an attack on all, and all member nations

1:19.3

are compelled to come to the defense of the nation that is attacked. So we're not quite sure

1:24.8

how this is going to unfold, but that's the latest on that front. Now, going back to Vladimir Putin, no one understands the wrath of Vladimir Putin,

1:31.3

quite like someone who's experienced it firsthand and lived to tell the tale. In May of 2023,

1:37.1

Bill Browder wrote in Time magazine, quote, when Russia invaded Ukraine, everyone was shocked

1:42.2

and scared, but for me, it was deeply personal. I've known Putin's

1:45.6

murderous intent for the last two decades, and I know how terrible this was going to be. Browder,

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