Hey everyone. Welcome to from the kitchen table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast and partner in life, Rachel Campos Duffy.

Thank you, Sean.

It's so great to be around the kitchen table.

And today we're going to have a conversation about the cruelty of so many policies on the left.

And we're going to focus in on the policies, the open border policies and also student loan forgiveness.

And we're going to be joined by Representative Kat Kamak to talk about what she has seen at the border, but also will be joined by Newsweek Deputy Opinion Editor Baccia Ungar Sargon, a really interesting person, someone who considers herself a liberal, but comes around to understanding and explaining so much of the cruelty behind some of these policies.

But we're going to start first with Representative Kat Kamak from Florida.

Thanks for joining us at the kitchen table.

Well, hello.

It is so good to hear y'all's voices.

And thanks for having me on.

Yeah, you know, I love just even the story of how you got into Congress before we talk about the border because I know

that's something that's steaming with you. And it's something that we're really concerned about.

And you and I have talked outside of this podcast about our concern for children. But I just for those of those listeners who

don't know your story, I'm sure they know who you are, but may not know the backstory of how

you got into politics. It said, you know, you were actually your family, you grew up on a cattle

ranch, your family lost that cattle ranch due to government policies. And you decided to fight back. And I just want to say,

I haven't seen you lose that fighting spirit since you've been there. You just are so impressive and

such a great voice for the GOP. Oh, thank you. I tell you, you know, politics was never in my

plan. It wasn't my life's dream. I didn't grow up wanting to

be a politician. I wanted to be a business owner. I actually, you know, while kids were, you know,

dreaming about being astronauts, I was running around with my little plastic purple briefcase because

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