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Diane Rehm: On My Mind

The Crisis In The Middle East Deepens

Diane Rehm: On My Mind

WAMU 88.5

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🗓️ 19 October 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

A horrific bombing at a hospital in Gaza this week left hundreds of Palestinians dead and deepened the crisis in the Middle East.

Hamas placed the blame for the devastating loss of life on an Israeli airstrike, but Israel and the United States say they have intelligence suggesting it was misfire by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a militant group in Gaza.

The strike pushed Arab leaders to cancel scheduled meetings with President Biden, who visited Israel Wednesday and voiced continued support for the country.

Washington Post foreign affairs columnist David Ignatius says we are in a period where “people really have to think carefully about long-term interests.”

Ignatius joins Diane to discuss the path forward and warns if leaders in the region act on emotion and think only of immediate goals, we could end up with a widespread, “catastrophic war.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Diane. On my mind, the deepening crisis in the Middle East. A horrific

0:12.9

moment at a hospital in Gaza left hundreds of Palestinians dead. Hamas planned the Israel,

0:21.0

but Israel along with the US claimed it was an errant missile launch within Gaza.

0:29.0

Meanwhile, the strike pushed Arab leaders to cancel their meetings with President Biden,

0:36.0

who visited Israel Wednesday and voiced support for the country.

0:42.0

It's a period where people really have to think carefully about long-term interests.

0:48.0

We could end up here with a big catastrophic war.

0:52.0

That's David Ignatius, foreign affairs columnist at the Washington Post.

0:58.0

He joined me Thursday morning to talk about the past forward.

1:06.0

David, let's start with the horrific bombing of the hospital in Gaza.

1:12.0

We are getting so many different comments on it, so many different perspectives,

1:20.0

so many points of evidence. Where do you come out on this?

1:25.0

Was it the Israelis? Was it the Palestinians? How did it happen?

1:30.0

Do we know yet for sure?

1:33.0

At this point, I couldn't say with certainty that I feel I know I have the evidence to establish

1:44.0

how that hospital was hit. The claims that have been made by US intelligence community

1:51.0

and Israel are strong, just measuring them against other statements that they make.

1:57.0

These do have detail and some credibility.

2:02.0

I pressed yesterday, both the White House and the intelligence community, to release more detail

2:10.0

so that there could be some independent corroboration of the claims that they're making.

2:15.0

I was not successful. There were still assertions that this was caused by an Islamic jihad rocket.

2:23.0

I think at this point, what people should do is not blame either side until they have more evidence.

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