There's gifts I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike.

It was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like it was so it was all wrapped up

it was so obvious what it was obviously because nothing shaped like a bike and I had a little ribbon on it and I was so

I guess for that was a life changer and I'm still sort of big on cycling around my area now so for that one change real low.

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Hey everybody Michael still here welcome to the Michael still podcast it is always a treat when you're in the house guess what.

We've got a great conversation coming up with independent political strategist and co founder of the Lincoln project Reed Galen now before moving to the private sector

and he served as deputy campaign manager for John McCain's presidential campaign and he was deputy campaign manager for Arnold Schwarzenegger successful bid for the governorship re election for governor in 2006.

Now my conversation with Reed ran the gamut we talked a little bit about the housekeeping for Lincoln project.

Now we talked about a little bit of scotus and we also got into why 2022 is going to require a great deal more work a great deal more time and a hell of a lot more commitment than 2020 all of that and more coming up next on the Michael still podcast.

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Always a pleasure to have you back on the podcast man I hope you're in the family well everybody is surviving get ready for summer right that's what it's all trying to try to I live here in Utah Michael and it's already snowed twice this week so I don't think you got well maybe summer.

It'll get here eventually and then we'll complain right to get there eventually well I'm glad you're on man so look there's so many different ways to begin a conversation after the last couple of weeks that we've had sure that I think probably you know with guys like you always like doing sort of the the top line view trip where you see things.

And certainly the work at Lincoln project is is a foot in incredible way that's an important piece of the puzzle going into the fall.

We've got primaries big primaries coming up obviously in Pennsylvania and elsewhere Georgia what's your assessment right now of if if you're putting a button on the moment what is that what does that look like for you.

It doesn't matter how many times we say don't let a lack of imagination be your biggest hurdle that we cannot expand our imagination fast enough.

Yeah yeah you know I mean Michael is you you know I spent five weeks in Florida in Palm Beach County during the recount in 2000 and I thought that that would be the craziest five weeks I would ever spend in politics and every year has been exponentially more insane since then so.

No I look I think that you know you know people talk about you know in in the Ohio Senate primary for example they say oh well 68% of people voted against JD Vance therefore it's not Trump's party I see it like this no it is Trump's party his endorsement got Vance over the line it's a binary system right it doesn't matter if you know he could have it could have been 42 people in the race he got 8% if he got 8% everybody else got five it doesn't matter.

Right he's he's the standard bear for the US Senate in Ohio now but I think that you know we'll see you know there's Nebraska as you mentioned Pennsylvania where Dr. Oz is right where you know he got booed when he was out there you know we've got Georgia Arkansas right is coming up where you know I would venture to say that the level of craziness that will hear out of Sarah Huckabee Sanders after she wins her primary for governor there will be second only to Trump and say we're going to be in the next one.

We'll be second only to Trump himself and maybe to Carlson because she knows she's going to win and then you know the the topsy turvy world of you know at least my old party the Republican party where as you mentioned a place like Georgia where you could have Brian camp looks like he's going to beat David Perdue in a primary for governor there and you could have Donald Trump say don't vote for that guy right.

He's got a election from me right and what does that do to her shall walk her right as her shall walk her ever dark in a stage with Brian camp probably not if he you know if a reporter asked him you know are you going to support the Republican ticket he's going to say I support Mr. Trump or whatever right so it's going to be the you know the the news of the Democrats demise I think is is too early given the fact as you know that Republicans are perfectly capable of being so insane that even Republican voters you know we're going to be in the next one.

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