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The CP3 Trade, Phil Jackson's Firing, and What's Next for the Clippers? (Ep. 130)

The Ringer NBA Show

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4.49.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2017

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The Ringer's Chris Ryan brings on Bill Simmons to offer up initial reactions to the news that Chris Paul is heading to the Houston Rockets (3:00). Then, The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor joins to give his thoughts on what's next for the Clippers (17:30). Finally, Knicks fan Jason Concepcion of The Ringer bids farewell to the Phil Jackson era in New York (56:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to an emergency ranger NBA show. My name is Chris Ryan. Today I'm joined by Bill Simmons in an undisclosed location in New York. Then I'll be joined by Kevin O'Connor and Jason Concepcion, all the talk about this nuts day in the NBA where Chris Paul got treated to the used to rockets and Phil Jackson got fired in New York.

0:19.0

All right, emergency NBA show is Chris Ryan. I'm joined by Bill Simmons. Bill, you're a little under the weather. You're in New York City, but the trade bells are going off.

0:40.0

Where's Jason Concepcion? Is he like celebrating the Phil Jackson? He wrote a borderline libelist column for us that just like just took Charlie Rosen out took Phil out took the last four years out. He said he was. Phil was the worst executive of his lifetime. Wow. And then he just vanished back into binge mode, just like a ghost. Wow. Interesting. I still think I'd say it's almost as worse. Yeah, there's some other stuff with Isaiah that I think you have to add. He factor in. But.

1:10.0

Okay, so let's start with the hard and tree because I know that you said Koc wrote a piece today. We're going to talk to him about it in just a second where he was like this could work, you know, like that these guys. There are there's ways to dantone you could stagger the minutes. They could share the ball. It would work, but you didn't sound so sure.

1:28.2

Staggering the minutes, I get it. It makes sense. When you're two best players can't be on the court all the time that worries me. I just go back to basic basketball science where.

1:40.8

These are two of the three most ball dominant guys in the league. I know they have all those time and possession stats. I get it. But I'm just talking about the eye test. What I've seen. I think what was hard and was first in Chris Paul was seventh. Yeah.

1:55.7

But when we're actually talking about it to play off. You know, it's your down three with 10 minutes left and what how did your team adjust what happens like those are two guys that just say they grabbed the ball and they say I got this.

2:10.2

So that part was me it worries me that James Harden we spent all last year turning him into a point card and turning him into an elite point card who.

2:20.9

We never thought of him this way, but wow James Harden's a point card and now they've added another point card. So now James Harden is not a point card. Look, I think they probably had to do this the rockets because if you're just shredding water if James Harden is the only superstar in a league that has all the guys in the words.

2:40.4

I get why they had to do it if they give Chris Paul five year deal.

2:44.7

Down the line. I think that is just basketball suicide. That's a terrible idea. But short term, it just feels like a weird bit to me.

2:53.8

I mean, I think if you can get James James Harden obviously had a little bit of trouble closing out the playoffs there. And if there's one guy who's going to be able to get you out of those early playoff rounds, it's Chris Paul.

3:05.7

What? That's the other problem here is that they didn't exactly get the Mario on a Rivera basketball.

3:15.6

Yeah, I wrote a piece for the ringer at the end of April about it was called the last days of the point. And it was basically about this is the end of the line for Chris Paul is a marquee superstar because.

3:26.9

You know, point card don't age that well little guys don't age that well. We have not seen a real example of somebody under six to aging into into a dominant guy still in their mid 30s like it just hasn't happened.

3:45.0

Now this trade actually makes the most sense for Chris Paul ironically if he can figure out how to coax this because he'll have somebody taking on the line share the load.

3:54.0

And and all that stuff but man from a chemistry standpoint hard and goes either way right we've seen him last year they seem happy.

4:02.7

Year before was just one of the all time chemistry catastrophes we've had.

4:08.2

He Chris Paul is a difficult guy to play with it was interesting I've been taking bet all day just watching one ridiculous the SP and show after another that takes for flying at me like faster than the penicillin but it was funny to hear multiple people talk about what a leader Chris Paul was.

4:26.5

I have clipper season tickets like he's like leadership by by anger. He's leadership by intimidation. It's like it's.

4:35.0

I wouldn't call I don't think this is like I don't know white eyes and hour.

4:41.4

It's it's just it's going to be a weird mix and then you have all right so let's let's play it out who's your five in crunch time right now so you Paul hard and Kapella Gordon.

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