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Welcome to the Ringer NBA show. I'm Chris Vernon, joining me as he has on Tuesday throughout the season.

The great Kevin O'Connor.

Kevin! Chris, I'm happy to be with the great Chris Vernon. What's going on, man?

How was your trip to L.A.? I saw you. I watched your videos.

It was fun, man. The draft was a good time. I got the big Butler trade. It was fun. I enjoyed it.

Yeah, and then I actually tweeted out. I watched your video. You were very slanderous towards Laurie Marken.

And I found that to be unbelievable. I think the quote was, he guards like he's six foot five and rebounds like a small guard.

And I was like, wow, congratulations to the bulls.

Bulls get an F plus for their draft grade. F plus.

How did you settle on F plus?

I've been told that F plus and F minus isn't a real grade. But you know, whatever. I don't care.

It wasn't quite an F, but it wasn't quite a D either. That's why we settled on an F plus.

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