I'm Jeffrey Rosen, President and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and welcome

to the latest of our We The People Constitutional Podcasts.

The National Constitution Center is the only institution in America, chartered by Congress,

to disseminate information about the U.S. Constitution on a non-partisan basis.

And today we discuss the most important constitutional and statutory ruling of the week,

a decision by the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, calling into question the

administration's NSA metadata surveillance program.

This is an exciting milestone for the We The People Podcast Series because I'm joined in our brand

new podcast studio at the National Constitution Center in

Philadelphia with two special guests who have just testified before a

meeting of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which is meeting at the National

Constitution Center today.

My guests are Deborah Perlstein, an Associate Professor of Constitutional and International Law at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at

Yeshiva University and Bobby Chesney, who is the Charles I Francis Professor in Law and Associate Dean for Economic Affairs at the University of

Texas School of Law.

In addition, we're joined by telephone by Stuart Baker, a partner in the Washington Office of Stepto and Johnson, and host of the

superb Stepto and Johnson Cyber Law Podcast.

Stuart and Ben Wittis, the host of the Law Fair podcast, recently hosted a remarkable

beer-fueled podcast, a live event with alcohol that illuminated section 215 in all sorts of ways.

We just have some Caesar salads and cookies here at the Constitution Center, but we are sure

that we will have a similarly robust debate.

All right, let me briefly introduce the Second Circuit ruling

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