THE COUNTERFEIT COUNTESS Janina Mehlberg

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Dr. Katie Nelson and Olivia Meikle

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4.8 • 538 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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When Jewish mathematician Pepi Mehlberg was offered a new identity as Countess Janina Suchodolska in Nazi-occupied Poland, she took that chance and used it - to join the underground resistance, feed thousands of Nazi prisoners every week, and eventually rescue over 10,000 Poles from Majdanek concentration camp. And she was just getting started. Our guests are Elizabeth White and Joanna Sliwa, authors of the new book The Counterfeit Countess: The Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust. Music featured in this episode provided by: Trialogo, Amanda Setlik Wilson, Kevin MacLeod, Esther Abrami, Myuu, Nico deNapoli, E's Jammy Jams, Adam Aston and Michael Levy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Support for this episode is provided by our Patreon supporters, Julie Gray, Bree Smith, Robin Brown, Janelleys Cannon, Jamie Lang, Maria Carla Sanchez, Valerie Jacobson, Jill Harrigan, Heather McKinnon, Shantelle Oliver, Lindsay Cummings, and Catherine Vogel.
0:17.8	Hi, Katie. Hi, Olivia. Hi, Katie. Hi, Olivia.
0:25.1	If you knew that you probably only had months or years to live, what would you do?
0:37.6	I don't know. I ask myself as a lot. And sometimes I'm like, I would just keep? I don't know.
0:38.4	I ask myself this a lot.
0:39.7	And sometimes I'm like, I would just keep doing what I'm doing.
0:42.3	I think it's a question that, you know, we ask a lot as sort of either a weird conversation starter or sort of for personal...
0:50.9	Like social media is asking you this all the time you know like how are you going to
0:54.5	live your best life yeah i think i would not do anything i don't like doing like and i don't know
1:03.9	like maintaining the plumbing and yeah i don't know i'd probably see those last few places that I really want to see in the world and haven't been to yet.
1:16.6	Yeah, for me, I think it would be some combination of maximizing time spent with the people that I love,
1:24.6	and doing the things that I really want to do before I die, you know,
1:31.0	seeing those last few places, and then preparing the people that I love for my death, right?
1:38.3	Like, leave letters or...
1:40.7	Yeah.
1:41.6	I don't think there's any one right way to do it.
1:44.9	Okay. I'm't think there's any one right way to do it. Okay.
1:45.7	I'm interested to see if your answer shifts, if I ask the question this way.
1:52.1	Okay.
1:53.7	What if you knew that your whole family had months or years to live, that everyone important to you, all the people you love around you, have months or years to live.
2:08.3	Wow.
2:09.3	Does that change anything?
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