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GoodFellows: Conversations from the Hoover Institution

The Counterfactual Show: Reimagining History, with Stephen Kotkin | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution

GoodFellows: Conversations from the Hoover Institution

Hoover Institution

News Commentary, Government, News, News:news Commentary, Politics

4.8 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Historians differ over the need to explore “counterfactuals”—the study of scenarios that never happened—and what they can tell us about historical causation. Stephen Kotkin, the Hoover Institution’s Kleinheinz Senior Fellow and noted historian of Russia, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson and John Cochrane to discuss alternative historical outcomes.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Bill Whalen, the host of Goodfellows.

0:02.0

Thanks for listening to the audio version of the show,

0:04.0

but we wanted to let you know that Goodfellows is primarily a video production,

0:08.0

and you're missing a lot of extra features by only listening to our show.

0:11.0

Give it a look by going to Hoover.org forward slash Goodfellows to see what you're missing.

0:16.0

Thanks.

0:17.0

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty.

0:22.5

So bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth's last for a thousand years,

0:32.3

men will still say this was their finding fellow.

0:38.3

It's Monday, May 13th, 2024 and welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast examining

0:45.3

social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns.

0:48.3

I'm Bill Whalen. I'm a Hoover Distinguished Policy Fellow. I'll be your moderator today.

0:52.3

joined by two or three of our usual good fellows sitting next to me,

0:55.0

the international man of history himself in California for some explained reason.

0:59.0

If you bet Neil be in California, you won the bet.

1:01.0

Congratulations.

1:02.0

Of course, Neil Ferguson.

1:04.0

Sitting the other end of the stage is the economist John Cochran, a California, though he may have not always cop to it.

1:09.0

You may have noticed, by the way, a bit of an unusual setting for us.

1:11.6

We are coming to you live from the newly minted, newly opened George P. Schultz building

1:16.6

here on the campus of Stanford University at the Hoover Institution.

1:19.6

We are without HR McMaster today, but one and only Stephen Cockkin, you've asked for him, you've begged for him, you've nagged us to no end to get them, and now you got him.

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