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GoodFellows: Conversations from the Hoover Institution

TikTok’s Ticking Clock: National Security Vs. Free Speech; Dr. Evil And James Bond | GoodFellows: John H. Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, H.R. McMaster, Amy Zegart, and Bill Whalen | Hoover Institution

GoodFellows: Conversations from the Hoover Institution

Hoover Institution

News Commentary, Government, News, News:news Commentary, Politics

4.8658 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Amy Zegart, the Hoover Institution’s Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow and author of Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster to discuss Israel’s intel failure, whether TikTok is the menace it’s portrayed to be, plus how spy films (wrongly) shape the public’s view on espionage.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Bill Whalen, the host of Goodfellows. Thanks for listening to the audio version of the show,

0:04.3

but we wanted to let you know that Goodfellows is primarily a video production, and you're missing a lot of

0:08.7

extra features by only listening to our show. Give it a look by going to Hoover.org

0:13.4

forward slash Goodfellows to see what you're missing. Thanks. Well, first of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay

0:22.9

for a meal plan here.

0:23.9

Well, I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia

0:28.2

feels it has to its students.

0:30.6

Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill, even if they

0:35.6

disagree with you?

0:36.6

If the answer is no, then you should

0:38.8

allow basic, I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like

0:42.9

basic humanitarian aid we're asking for. Like, could people please have a glass of water?

0:52.6

It's Wednesday, May 1st, 2024, May Day.

0:55.0

Welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns.

1:02.0

I'm Bill Whalen, I'm a Hoover Distinguished Policy Fellow, and I'll be your moderator today.

1:06.0

It may as I have the great honor and privilege for introducing the stars of our show, the Goodfell call them that would include the historian neil ferguson the economist john cochran the former

1:15.2

presidential national security advisor historian strategist lieutenant general h r mcmaster all three gentlemen

1:20.5

or hoover institution senior fellows uh guys welcome to the fifth month of the new year and uh what a busy

1:26.3

past week it's been a lot to get into.

1:28.5

We're going to talk about obviously what's going on on the campuses and the second segment of the show,

1:32.5

but first we're going to take a look at intelligence in a time of wars, plural, and joining us for that conversation is our colleague Amy Ziegart.

1:39.4

Dr. Amy Zegart is the Hoover Institution's Morris Arnold and known to Gene Cox Senior Fellow and a

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