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It's Wednesday, May 29th, 2024, and welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast examining

social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns. I'm Bill Whalen. I'm a Hoover Distinguished

Policy Fellow. I'll be your moderator today, joined by our full complement of Goodfellows, the historian

Neil Ferguson, the economist John Cochran, and former presidential national security advisor,

Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster,

they all are Hoover Institution's senior fellows. And joining us today, returning to Goodfellows is

Matt Pottinger. Matt is a Hoover Institution distinguished visiting fellow and a former senior

staffer at the White House's National Security Council, where he survived somehow under the brutal

yoke of one HR McNaster.

Prior to his White House service, Mr. Pottinger is a reporter based in China working for Reuters in the Wall Street Journal. He also fought in Iraq and Afghanistan as a U.S. Marine during three

combat deployments between 2007 and 2010. That Pottinger joins us to discuss a Hoover

institution press book. He's edited on the topic of China and deterrence.

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