The Cost of War
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PJ Vogt
4.8 • 5.1K Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
The United States has begun a conflict with Iran that two thirds of the American public does not understand. One question we can try to answer: how much is this conflict costing us? The surprising story of how the government learned to hide the costs of war, and how someone learned to get to the bottom of those costs anyway.
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Additional listening: our episode on ballooning national debt and why it's a big deal
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| 0:00.0 | Quick note, before we start the show, we are doing an AMA. |
| 0:04.3 | That's an Ask Me, I'm the proverbial me in this, ask me anything, on the search engine |
| 0:09.7 | subreddit. |
| 0:10.7 | This is going to be Friday, April 24th at noon Eastern. |
| 0:15.0 | Don't feel like you have to ask me anything. |
| 0:17.8 | It's more like we've done a bunch of recent episodes that people have emailed a lot of |
| 0:22.1 | questions about. There was our big series on driverless cars. There was our episode about GLP1s. |
| 0:27.6 | There was our episode about Anthropic, the company behind Quad. And these are just things that |
| 0:32.1 | generated a lot of questions from people. And we wanted to say, if there's something that we've |
| 0:37.1 | published recently that you wanted to know more about, |
| 0:39.5 | or if you wanted to know why we did something, or how we did something, |
| 0:42.5 | or even if you just have general questions about how the show works, we're doing it and ask me anything. |
| 0:48.3 | I guess, yeah, anything, anything you want. |
| 0:51.1 | Again, April 24th, Friday, this will be in the Search Engine podcast subreddit at noon Eastern time. |
| 1:29.4 | Music Welcome to Search Engine. I'm PJ Vote. No question too big, no question too small. |
| 1:36.6 | I think almost any other time in American history, this would be a very naive thing for me to admit out loud. |
| 1:47.0 | But genuinely, if you were to ask me, PJ, explain why the United States is currently at war with Iran? I would have to answer, |
| 1:56.5 | I don't know. I do read the newspapers, so I know Trump said he wanted to hit Iran's nuclear program. I know Netanyahu was pushing for strikes. I also know that after quickly deposing Maduro in Venezuela, |
| 2:03.6 | Trump seemed to walk away with the belief that regime change was just something you could do |
| 2:07.6 | conveniently from home. DoorDash, but with armed drones. |
| 2:11.6 | But like, what is the case for the Iran strikes other than they're emotionally satisfying for the president? |
| 2:19.3 | What is the argument for why this is in the national interest? |
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