The Cost Of Obedience with Joe L Barnes
The Jennie Allen Podcast
Jennie Allen
4.8 • 6.1K Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
What if the point isn’t platform, but friendship with God? Jennie sits down with Joe L. Barnes -worship leader, Grammy-winning songwriter (“Promises”), and tender shepherd-at-heart - to talk about obeying God’s voice, writing songs from real pain, and letting Jesus define success.
Joe shares how intimacy with God has become the anchor of his calling. You’ll also hear the beautiful Psalm 23 picture behind his project Good Shepherd (and a wild lesson about sheep, oil, and healing).
You’ll hear:
Obedience over optics: the one decision to follow God’s voice that opened every door
Good Shepherd theology: why “You anoint my head with oil” means protection, healing, and rest for anxious hearts
Collaboration & communion: real talk before great songs - and why we’re made for both
Grief & marriage: holding loss and love at the same time, and the legacy Joe wants more than platform
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| 0:00.0 | Me and God are friends, so I let him do what he wants. |
| 0:01.7 | I don't care if we're known or not. |
| 0:03.8 | I don't care what the music goes. |
| 0:05.2 | I'm like, I just want to be with him and I just want to write songs about him. |
| 0:15.5 | Guys, you're going to love, if you do not know, Joe L. Barnes meeting him today through the podcast. |
| 0:21.8 | He is just full of wisdom and truth and encouragement. |
| 0:27.3 | I met Joe for the first time leading with him at a unite. |
| 0:31.6 | He was leading with elevation rhythm. |
| 0:34.1 | And he's just fantastic. |
| 0:36.1 | Grammy Award winning has sung and helped write many of the |
| 0:40.0 | songs you know in worship. Also, really fun, we are taking your questions this week to shape |
| 0:48.3 | the spring podcast. And what you can do is call in to 214-236107, and we will air your question, and I will answer some |
| 0:59.9 | of them on the podcast for the spring season. |
| 1:03.0 | So leave us your messages. |
| 1:04.6 | Tell us what's going on and how I can minister to you. |
| 1:08.3 | Here's my friend. |
| 1:09.1 | Let's go. |
| 1:16.1 | I want to hear your story. I want to hear where you have fallen in love with Jesus. How did that happen for you? My story falling in love |
| 1:23.0 | with Jesus is interesting because I think when I was a kid, I'm going to get in trouble for saying this. |
| 1:29.3 | I know. When I was a kid, I didn't have a drug issue. The only drug issue I had is that my mom drugged me to church Sundays and Wednesdays. |
| 1:34.8 | And Monday night, like prayer. Like it was, I was, I'm a church kid. Okay. My mom is the evangelist of my home church. My aunt and uncle are the pastors. My cousins is one of the pastors. |
| 1:46.2 | Like my cousins are the worship team and the usher board. Like it's a family church. My uncle is the |
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