You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience, and maybe that's you.

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

Welcome to the download of Moneybox Live, the program about your money.

We've never been more inventive applications for patents and trademarks

saw during lockdown to a record high, but inventing a product is only the beginning.

It is just as hard to fund its development and protect its design and brand.

So in this episode, we're looking at how to make money out of your inventions and clever ideas by talking to some of the people

who've done it. And let's meet two of them, Zoe and Nick. Welcome to the program. Zoe,

briefly, if I could ask you first, tell me your idea. So about seven years ago, I was potty training,

my son, and I was also giving end of life care to my dad, who was

bedbound.

And I had an issue whereby I couldn't find a portable toilet solution that I could keep and carry

around with me.

All that was on the market was huge potty's and things.

So I invented my own. I called it the

wizard. It's taken seven years to bring to life, but I've now launched it this year during

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