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The Trawl

The Cost of Being Young, Job Hunting & Katie Price

The Trawl

Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss

News, Politics, Government

4.7867 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Marina and Jemma dive into the growing crisis facing young people in Britain.


With more than a million young people now classed as NEETs (not in education, employment or training), they explore why finding work has become so difficult, why endless application processes are leaving candidates exhausted and demoralised, and why many feel the social contract has broken down completely.


Featuring clips from across social media and the political landscape, they discuss everything from impossible job requirements and AI-driven recruitment to housing costs, stagnant wages and the growing sense that younger generations are being asked to work harder for less.


They also examine what countries like the Netherlands are doing differently, whether politicians are finally waking up to the scale of the problem, and why an entire generation increasingly feels locked out of the future.


Plus: a brief detour into the never-ending Katie Price saga, an unexpectedly profound discussion about social media and loneliness, and a pudding that perfectly captures the absurdity of today's jobs market.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

No one's having kids. Do you know how hard you need to abuse a mammal to make them not have children?

0:16.1

Hello and welcome to The Troll, where we sift through the week's political debris and ask, was there

0:22.5

really no one in the room who thought this might backfire? I'm Gemma Forte. And I'm Marina Perkis,

0:27.7

and today we're going to be looking at how difficult it is for young people to find work these

0:32.2

days, the new phenomenon that is needs, i.e. not in education, employment or training. So we're going to look

0:40.6

a little bit about how we've got here as a country and more importantly, what can be done to

0:46.1

improve their outlook. We found some of the most interesting commentary and takes. Some are, I mean,

0:53.1

the pudding. Just wait for the pudding guys.

0:55.5

And you see, me and Jemma are political anorax.

0:58.2

We find this kind of thing interesting and we assume you do too, hence why you're listening.

1:03.7

Yeah, and it's interesting.

1:04.7

We were also pondering the other day, Maruna and I that sometimes we find it quite hard to relate to the millions of people who are more

1:13.0

normal than us who probably couldn't tell you who the Chancellor of the Exchequeror is.

1:18.2

And yet they care deeply and are very, very invested in the soap opera, for instance,

1:23.6

that is Katie Price's life.

1:25.8

Okay.

1:26.4

So it's a funny thing because obviously we go on sort of the

1:29.8

Channel 5 shows and if you're on the Jeremy Vine show, absolutely the main debates are

1:34.8

political, usually a bit of current affairs in there, sometimes a lighter one, especially on a

1:39.7

Friday. And then you get the papers and then within the papers, they do cover like a wide variety of types of stories.

1:47.3

And I'll be honest, sometimes the odd light one, it sort of diffuses the tension in the studio.

1:53.6

So if you've had a massive barney about, I don't know, Nigel Farage or something,

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