The Cost of Always Optimizing with Chris and Amy
All the Hacks: Money, Points & Life
Chris Hutchins
4.7 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What happens when two relentless optimizers try to make everyday decisions? Well, today you'll find out, |
| 0:06.6 | as I'm sitting down with my wife, Amy, to break down some of the recent behind-the-scenes moments |
| 0:11.2 | from our life, from arguing about buying furniture to rethinking what our kids actually need to learn |
| 0:16.6 | about money and why sometimes optimization becomes the very thing that gets in our way. |
| 0:22.2 | We'll also take a bunch of your questions on lounge access for families, the |
| 0:26.1 | evolving role of technology and social media for kids, how we're planning to step back |
| 0:30.7 | professionally to have more time with our children while they still think we're cool and a |
| 0:35.6 | lot more. If you're a parent, an optimizer, or both, I think you will find a lot to relate to in this episode. I'm Chris Hutchins. If you enjoy this episode and you want to keep upgrading your money, points, and life, click follow or subscribe. Amy, I'm glad you're back. I wanted to do this again because we got a lot of feedback that |
| 0:54.8 | last time we had an episode with the two of us, we kind of went behind the scenes in our relationship. |
| 0:59.9 | And if you look at the story of who we are, we've kind of become these two optimizers that |
| 1:06.1 | really do everything in the spirit of saving more, earning more, trying to really live an amazing life. |
| 1:13.1 | But sometimes that story, the optimizing just gets in the way of us actually doing what we want. |
| 1:19.0 | So I thought today we could talk about some of the decisions we've been making recently, show |
| 1:23.3 | a little behind the scenes of how you and I operate and how some of the mistakes we make might be |
| 1:27.9 | able to be avoided, hopefully by people listening. And I'm excited we're doing it. Yeah, I'm really |
| 1:32.9 | excited to dig in and talk a little bit about both ways that our optimization efforts serve us, |
| 1:40.1 | but also the optimizer's curse and how it strikes every now and then. |
| 1:45.1 | So I thought we would start with furniture because I think one of the bigger moments in the |
| 1:50.6 | last few months that our relationship has had some ups and downs was around our desire |
| 1:58.4 | to replace a lot of the furniture in the house. |
| 2:01.8 | Yeah, I think it's a great place to start. The furniture conversation, unbeknownst to me, I thought would be a very easy, |
| 2:08.8 | straightforward discussion around should we purchase this bed? Should we purchase this nightstand? |
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