I said, you know, this is dangerous and you catch it.

And you know, I caught it.

I learned a lot.

I learned a lot.

Great doctors, great hospitals.

And now I recovered.

And we can't close up our nation or you're not going to have a nation.

He says that we're, you know, we're learning to live with it.

People are learning to die with it.

As you know by now, election day is less than a week away.

I don't normally talk about politics on this podcast, but there's no denying how entangled

politics and science and public health have all become this year.

It's very hard to disentangle any of it.

But what I wonder is how's the pandemic really going to play into the election?

We know it's been dominating our everyday lives for the last eight months, but how much

will that actually impact voters' decisions?

To try and answer this question, I spoke with David Chalian.

He's CNN's political director.

One of the best in the business has his thumb on the heartbeat of this election at the

state level, at the county level, at the city level.

He's also the host of two podcasts, politically sound and the CNN political briefing.

In this episode, we're going to talk about one of the most important elections in our

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