The Controversial New Food Pyramid with Michael Dorf | Rising Anxieties
Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation
Jasmin Singer and Mariann Sullivan
4.9 • 579 Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 42 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to rising anxieties, everybody. |
| 0:08.0 | My anxiety is rising a lot. |
| 0:09.9 | I'm not sure about you guys. |
| 0:11.2 | So we have a guest today. |
| 0:13.6 | I don't think I've ever had a guest before for rising anxieties, but Michael Dorff is here. |
| 0:17.2 | Once again, he was here last week, but on the Henry Port. |
| 0:22.6 | And there's a couple of reasons that he came back this week. One is that we spent a lot of time saying nice things |
| 0:29.6 | about RFK Jr. last week and the, well, some nice things, not some nice things, but but nice things |
| 0:37.1 | about the, you know, the commitment to |
| 0:39.7 | end a lot of animal testing and research and really a lot. We'll see how that works out. |
| 0:45.0 | But as soon as we stopped recording, or very shortly after, the whole announcement came out |
| 0:51.3 | about the food guidelines, the food pyramid, which has created |
| 0:57.8 | quite a to-do among vegans and everybody else pretty much. So I thought it was only fair to |
| 1:04.1 | have Michael back on to discuss this new element of RFK Jr.'s reputation vis-a-vis animals. The other reason it is, |
| 1:12.9 | is that I'm a wreck. Like, I'm very anxious about the world in general, not just about animals, |
| 1:18.0 | but you know, you know what I'm talking about. Those of you who are not in the States |
| 1:22.4 | also probably know what I'm talking about. It's very perilous times. And I'm a very anxious person. I think I've |
| 1:30.2 | mentioned before that my nickname as a child from my mother was my little worry wart. Apparently I've |
| 1:35.3 | been worrying since I was one. And Michael's kind of a calming influence. He always seems to take |
| 1:41.8 | things in stride, whether he does or not. |
| 1:46.5 | So I'm very happy to have him here today. |
| 1:54.9 | We're going to talk about the new food pyramids, the new guidelines, the new craziness, and all of that. |
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