Welcome to the Our Henhouse interview.

I'm Marianne Sullivan.

I am just thrilled to welcome back, Wayne Chung.

And I would guess that he is a person who really needs no introduction for a lot of you,

but that doesn't necessarily mean all of you.

So I will say he's an animal rights lawyer, a co-founder and former lead organizer of direct action everywhere, an animal

rescue art. And that, you know, that's something of an understatement. And he has been

criminally prosecuted for animal rescue, both successfully and non-successfully. And most recently, perhaps surprisingly, a seminarian.

And that's definitely something I want to talk to you about. He blogs with this simple heart on

Substack. So welcome back, Wayne. It's good to be here. And you forgot the most important part,

defended by Marion Sullivan. I still think the law review article you wrote is the best thing part, defended by Marion Sullivan.

I still think the law review article you wrote is the best thing on open rust gets been written, especially in terms of kind of legal defense.

No, it really is.

That is the best opening to an interview I have ever had.

I just, I think that no one has kind of just gone through.

The problem of campaigning is you don't really get a chance to sit down or reflect about the bigger picture a lot of times.

And when you write a law of your article, that's exactly what you're doing.

And, yeah, I mean, it's a beautiful tribute to Cherry, too, you know, one of our mutual

friends who passed away two years ago, three years ago now.

I imagine it's at least three, you know, time flies.

But it has been a while.

Yeah, but it's an amazing piece.

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