The conspiracy theory Trump can't kill
The News Agents - USA
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4.3 • 719 Ratings
🗓️ 16 July 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Does the Democratic Party need fresh blood? New ideas? Perhaps a whole new populist approach to politics? That’s the interview you’ll be hearing with Saikat Chakrabarti - the young tech millionaire hoping to unseat Nancy Pelosi next year who believes that the Dems are dead unless they seriously reinvent.
But we begin with the problem that simply won’t go away for Trump. The Epstein files and how it’s splitting the MAGA base. What happens when you unleash a conspiracy theory on the world you just can’t shut down?
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents USA podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.3 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.8 | Make some noise if you care about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. |
| 0:19.9 | Raise your hand if it matters a lot to you raise your hand so every hand of 7,000 people |
| 0:26.2 | everybody cares that's Megan Kelly and Charlie Kirk two of the luminous stars of |
| 0:32.8 | Magaland talking about Jeffrey Epstein that everyone, everyone is troubled by the lack of explanation, |
| 0:40.5 | but one person is begging to disagree. |
| 0:44.2 | That person is Donald Trump. |
| 0:46.3 | He thinks the question of Epstein and the so-called missing files is boring, and he wishes |
| 0:52.3 | everyone would stop asking him about it. What is this doing to |
| 0:56.4 | Magaland? Welcome to the Newsagents USA. It's John. It's Emily. And in a moment you're going |
| 1:08.2 | to hear an interview with one of the new progressive |
| 1:12.4 | Democrats, a man who is trying to unseat Nancy Pelosi, the former speaker. His name is |
| 1:19.2 | Shokat Chakrabati. He's worked with AOC. He's worked alongside Bernie Sanders. And he believes |
| 1:25.8 | the old way of doing things is dead. And the Democratic |
| 1:29.6 | Party has got to reinvent itself from scratch. But we start with Epstein, because this is a problem |
| 1:36.3 | that is not going away. It is getting worse for Donald Trump. And surely if anyone knows |
| 1:43.3 | about conspiracy theories, it is the current president. |
| 1:47.5 | He has been the propagator of so many of them. And the one thing you should know is you cannot |
| 1:53.1 | kill a conspiracy theory. You can shrink it. You can get people to look the other way. |
| 1:59.0 | But just to tell people there's nothing to see here, |
| 2:02.1 | is not going to wash. And yet, that is still Donald Trump's demeanor when he's asked about it |
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