How the Epstein files have turned MAGA against Trump
The News Agents - USA
Global
4.3 • 719 Ratings
🗓️ 9 July 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump's cheerleaders and media outriders are apoplectic with his administration. After months of anticipation that the attorney general Pam Bondi would release an Epstein 'client list' - the names of wealthy individuals that the disgraced paedophile billionaire had blackmailed for influence - a joint DOJ and FBI memo this week dismissed the idea that any such list even existed.
Not normally shy to answer questions, the President appeared apoplectic too, with a journalist who asked about his handling of the Epstein affair - all lending to the feeling that Trump is reeling from the wave of anger coming his way from him own base. How has a conspiracy become the breaking point between Trump and his cheerleaders? We discuss with Anna Merlan, senior reporter at Mother Jones and author of 'Republic of Lies'.
Later, as armed officers swept through a park in LA in scenes that have been described as "disgraceful" and "dystopian" - is ICE now acting like a lawless militia?
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents USA podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.2 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.6 | Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. |
| 0:17.8 | You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. |
| 0:22.7 | And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? |
| 0:26.7 | That is unbelievable. |
| 0:29.6 | Do you want to waste the time, and do you feel like answering? |
| 0:32.2 | I don't mind answering. |
| 0:33.6 | I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. |
| 0:44.0 | It just seems like a desecration. |
| 0:47.2 | Who is Trump kidding? |
| 0:49.0 | Everyone in his orbit wants to talk about Jeffrey Epstein. |
| 0:52.9 | No one seems to understand why this promised file has |
| 0:57.2 | miraculously disappeared. And having promised so much for so long, how are they going to get |
| 1:03.9 | away with telling the Maga base the lovers of conspiracy theories that there is nothing |
| 1:09.7 | whatsoever to see here. Welcome to the |
| 1:13.3 | Newsagents USA. It's John. It's Emily. And you wouldn't be a conspiracy theorist if you |
| 1:24.7 | didn't think that it was really dodgy when your conspiracy theory |
| 1:27.9 | disappeared overnight. But that is essentially what has happened for the millions of MAGA fans |
| 1:35.5 | who believed Donald Trump when he said he was going to release not just files into JFK, not just |
| 1:44.1 | files into MLK, their assassinations, but also |
| 1:48.3 | into the client list held by one prolific paedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. And over the past |
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