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Culture Study Podcast

The Complicated Future of Reality TV

Culture Study Podcast

Culture Study Podcast

Arts, Society & Culture

4.5789 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

We’re more than twenty years into the current reality boom — and things are getting complicated. What are the unspoken and spoken ethics of signing up to become a reality star? What resources (about harassment and protection, about brand deals) should be made available to anyone who signs a reality contract? Are reality stars scabs during strikes — and should they unionize? WHAT MAKES THESE MELODRAMAS SO COMPELLING? WTF IS SCANDOVAL??? Hollywood correspondent Natalie Jarvey joins me to talk through it all.(And just to be clear, even if you’re not a huge reality television person, this episode has something for you — I watch very little but I’m very invested in reality melodrama reality labor as labor)Show Notes:Some of my favorite Natalie Jarvey pieces: The Year That Broke Hollywood; Why Are Movies Sooooo Long? An Investigation; Actors Don’t Want a Yacht — They Just Want to Survive Peak TVThe truly WILD profile of Tom Sandoval in the New York Times MagazineA detailed timeline of Scandoval if you really want to go down that wormholeSo much great writing on the production and legacy of Cops: The Unreality of Cops; Cops: the violent legacy of a TV show that sculpted America's view of police; Is ‘Cops’ Committing Crimes Itself?How Netflix Became the New King of Reality TVFrom the Triple-A segment: ARE YOU IN THE PORTAL???We’re currently looking for your questions for future episodes about:SAPPHIC POP, SO HOT RIGHT NOW (especially want to talk about Chappell Roan but we can go in so many directions)How do people access/consume celebrity gossip these daysMidwest [Dad] MasculinityWTF is going on with [insert clothing brand/website] hereGwyneth? The new Brad Pitt / George Clooney movie?We’re definitely doing a Paul Mescal episode but I’d love your ideas about who should be my co-hostStill want to do a Sydney Sweeney and Gen-Z Stardom ep!!!!!Anything you need advice or want musings on for the AAA segmentYou can submit them (and ideas for future eps) here (this is the subscriber-only form!)For today’s discussion: What reality television do you watch — and how has your thinking about it changed with time? Are reality stars actors? What protections should they seek (or deserve?)

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, it's Anne. Melody and I are deep in planning mode for episodes for the rest of the year,

0:05.2

and we've got our own list of subjects that we want to cover and guess we want a book.

0:10.3

Like, I don't know, could we do an episode about why Paul Muskell is so hot featuring Paul Muskell.

0:16.7

Can you make that happen, Melody?

0:18.6

I'll try.

0:20.5

Melody has Paul Muskell's email. time i have access to i am db pro

0:24.3

one time he hearted a tweet that i did uh with a link to a piece that i wrote about normal people

0:31.8

that was about how he was so hot so maybe he he knows he knows that I think that he's hot. So maybe he would

0:39.3

come on the show. What episodes are you still dying to hear? We can do more celebrity image

0:45.0

deep dives or we can go more highbrow like we did it with episodes on infrastructure or student

0:50.5

loans. Whatever you want to do, head to the Google forum at tiny URL.com slash

0:56.9

culture study pod and join in on our wild and totally undirected brainstorming.

1:03.2

And of course, we always need your questions for the ask and anything part of the show.

1:07.9

Those can go in the same form, tiny URL.com slash culture study pod.

1:13.0

Okay, thanks. On with the show. I think reality TD often gets lumped into this category of being

1:19.5

like a guilty pleasure. Yeah. And I've had to really force myself to stop thinking about it that

1:25.6

way, that it's okay for me as a person who I like to think

1:29.5

I have relatively highbrow taste in TV and I watch a lot of prestige TV and, you know, Oscar movies

1:36.3

and things for my job, but that it's okay for me to also love these shows. And I think when you talk

1:42.0

about it as only a guilty pleasure, you take away that

1:44.2

importance and what it means to the industry. It also is a really interesting moment to talk about it

1:49.9

because Hollywood is going through a lot of changes right now. And you can go back to last summer

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