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🗓️ 21 August 2024
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Jennifer Romolini is one of my favorite thinkers about ambition, and workism, and the stories we tell ourselves about what we must endure in order to find a modicum of security and pride — and she also happens to be a true scholar of all things Ben Affleck. Months ago, I asked her to come on the podcast to talk about the intersection of Affleck and ambition, but we held the episode for a bit to give it some distance from the (also excellent!!) J.Lo episode. But we’d had it scheduled for today for several weeks — and I’m writing this intro just hours after the news broke that Lopez had filed for divorce.
The good news is that everything Jenn and I talk about re: Affleck’s star image, ambition, striving, his relationship to stardom just generally — all of that still holds true. Just ignore the part when I say that I don’t think they’re going to get divorced. And I can’t wait to hear your thoughts.
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0:55.8 | And I am author and podcaster and Ben Affleck superfan Jennifer Romalini. |
1:02.3 | Okay, so the reason I asked you to be my co-host, like there was no one else in my mind, truly no one else, because you are at Ben Affleck officiantado. And I mean that in terms of |
1:13.9 | like, I just feel like you appreciate him and appreciate the multifacetedness of his like sadness. |
1:22.0 | You post stuff of him, you know, doing the typical, like we've seen all these images of him like |
1:26.2 | just sucking on a cigarette. |
1:28.4 | Stuffing McDonald's in his mouth in his car with, like, a face of ecstasy. Yes. |
1:34.1 | Yes. I'm a scholar. You're not, like, shaming him. You like it. Here's the thing. First |
1:39.4 | off, I'm a Ben Affleck scholar. I'm not really a fan. I'm a scholar. Yeah. And like I think that everybody, |
1:45.7 | I don't know if everybody has this, but a lot of people have a celebrity that you feel, |
1:50.5 | you just understand. Like if you were in a room with them, you could actually have a conversation |
1:55.9 | with them because they're very knowable to you. They reflect something back at you that is very personal |
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