Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast. A conversation designed to help leaders

go further faster. On today's podcast, we'll conclude a two-part conversation on the

unexpectedly complex topic of purpose. Andy, we started this conversation on last month's

podcast, and for those of you who missed it, you definitely need to go back and listen

to the whole thing. But to set the stage for today's conversation, let's review a little.

You said one of the reasons that leaders are resistant to purpose is that purpose has

a catch. Yeah, it has a catch. And the first catch, I think, starts off when we're early

in our careers because, you know, who has time for purpose? I gotta pay the bills. Again,

my friend Charlie Rimfrow says, you gotta eat and live indoors. And so that's where our

careers begin. How do I eat and live indoors and help make sure my kids go to school and

all those kinds of things. And then we hear stories of people who do big things, meaningful

things, purpose-filled things. And it's intriguing. It stirs something in us. We think maybe

one day someday. But I think eventually for all of us, we begin asking those broad questions

of, is there more life than this? What it's at all about? Is it really just about the bottom

line? How can I leverage what I'm doing, you know, for something that has greater meaning

and greater purpose? So purpose is inspiring. Purpose is intriguing. We would all like to

think one day we look back on a life filled with purpose, but there is a catch. And the

catch is this. That purpose is about becoming a means to an end. Again, every item in your

home has a purpose. And the purpose of that item is not that item. The plunger has a purpose.

Right? You know, the shovel has a purpose. Ranch has a purpose. Plyard, everything in your

home has a purpose. Every item has a purpose. And purpose is all about being a means to an

end. The problem is we come into this world wanting to be the end, not a means to an end.

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