So, guys, I have a serious question. In light of that David Ignatius story, should

Kash Patel have been included among the worldwide threats briefed last week to

Congress? Certainly a Washington-wide threat. Yeah, I mean, maybe a democracy and

fate of the Republic threat, but, you know, he's now out of office, right? Where

is he back on the hill? No, he's out of office. He's now a Fox News

personality. Oh, good. So, then at most, he's like a global annoyance or

perturbed. I don't think we can really call him a global threat. I don't know. I

read that story. It was pretty terrifying. Well, he's definitely getting paid more

for his work.

Hello, and welcome to Rational Security. The collusion was not an illusion

edition. I am Shane Harris. Collusion was never an illusion for this group. We

didn't really like to work collusion conspiracy, canutling. We use many forms of

that word over the past four years. Yes, there and collusion confusion, but now we

have collusion clarity. We do have collusion clarity this week. It's really nice

to finally really bring this to a close, you know. No, I'm not sure we have

collusion clarity, but we can get to that. We'll talk all about it. We're going to

get there. Oh, my goodness. I am here. We got a big gang this time in the

virtual jungle studio. I'm here with Ben Wittis, Tamara Hoffman, Wittis, Susan

Hennessy, and our good friend Quintet Jurassic. Hi, everybody.

Quintet. I think this is, have we had five of us on the podcast for a while? It's been

a while since we've had five. It's been a while. Not since, not since we've been in

the jungle studio in exile. Wow. This is really stretching the limits of our

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