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The Collaborators and the Dissidents

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2020

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to Anne Applebaum, staff writer for the Atlantic and author of The Twilight of Democracy, about how collaborators and dissidents emerge during a regime like Trump’s — or East Germany’s, how anti-communists like herself moved away from the Republican party, and Laura Ingraham. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

With the president to say that he's going to, with whole funds, funds from schools,

0:05.6

that Joan open up is completely upside down.

0:09.0

What he should be saying is, we're going to pass the heroes out,

0:13.4

which has $100 billion in order for schools to open up so that they can be safer for children.

0:23.0

We talked about reopening the economy, and he said just reopen.

0:26.8

There's no reason for any of this stuff.

0:29.4

Faces, data, masks, to talk baloney.

0:32.7

Yeah, we saw how well that worked.

0:34.7

Hospitalizations and deaths to the most concerted indicators of Trump's failed response

0:41.0

are already unacceptably high and they are rising.

0:47.8

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan.

0:51.0

I am recording as usual since March from my bedroom,

0:54.3

which very much would not pass inspection by that mean room-radar guy on Twitter

0:58.9

who cruelly judges the rooms where people zoom their televised appearances to cable news.

1:04.3

There's even an unmade bed here, which I believe might be the one truly unpartnable sin.

1:11.0

So take that room-radar. I'm glad we're all audio today.

1:15.4

Trumpcast has long maintained with Robert Mueller, who also documented it,

1:19.9

that America has been under attack from Russian military since 2015,

1:25.0

and that the Trump administration has turned a blind eye and even welcomed those attacks,

1:29.7

believing they benefit him. Last week, we talked to Molly McQ,

1:33.9

who broke down the truth of the Russian bounties taken out on the heads of American special forces

1:38.4

in Afghanistan, and how the Trump administration knew of those paid to kill American soldiers,

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