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The club teaching women to say 'no' at work

Business Daily

BBC

Business

4.4816 Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2022

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Ever heard of the term non-promotable task? Well, if you’re a woman, the chances are you’ve been doing a lot of them at work.

Leanna Byrne speaks to the authors of The No Club, a book tracking the problems that arise when women are tasked with doing mindless jobs. We are talking about the kind of jobs that make managers happy, but won’t help you get on in your career.

Linda Babcock, Brenda Peyser, Lise Vesterlund, and Laurie Weingart—the original “No Club”— join us to talk through why women are disproportionately asked and expected to take on these tasks, why that leaves women overcommitted and underutilised and how companies are therefore forfeiting revenue, productivity, and top talent.

Presenter/producer: Leanna Byrne

(Photo: Stressed woman at work. Credit: Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

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0:07.3

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0:13.1

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0:17.1

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0:20.1

Hello, I'm Leanna Byrne and welcome to the program.

0:24.1

Have you been lumped with the thankless jobs at work?

0:27.4

Well, if you're a woman, the chances are you have been.

0:30.6

It turned out that the women were spending 200 more hours on non-promotable work each year.

0:35.9

A new book co-authored by four academics calls these tasks non-promotable work each year. A new book co-authored by four academics

0:38.3

calls these tasks non-promotable tasks

0:41.6

and it could be hindering females

0:43.4

rather than helping them in the workplace.

0:46.4

This is Business Daily from the BBC.

0:52.3

Picture it.

0:53.7

You arrive into the office with the cake you made the night before for colleagues leaving due.

0:59.6

Everyone always compliments your baking, so you don't want to let anyone down.

1:04.5

You were the one to send out the invitation for this gathering to all your colleagues.

1:08.0

You send out the reminder and heard everyone to a breakout area to celebrate.

1:13.2

Later on, you chair two meetings, take all the notes, and train up the new person on the

1:18.8

team who's going to take your colleague's place.

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