Hello, Wienabers. My name is Jesse Meekham and this is podcast number 382 for Wienab, where we teach

you four rules to help you stop leaving paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt and save more money.

Today I would like to report on the credit card experiment we are running with our

clothing category credit card experiment.

This was born, if you recall, I don't remember,

the episode number, but if you recall,

I confessed to you that we were no longer tracking clothing purchases as made on our normal credit card.

Instead, I was going to use, well I, Julie does our clothing shopping for the most part. I buy my own

clothes on thank you very much. Yeah, I own that. That's my area and Julie buys

all of the other people in our house their clothes and she

buys her own. I'm just in charge of mine and barely can keep up with it. So she's in

charge of that and that's why this was a diceier arena for us for a while.

The I just hate shopping. I hate clothing shopping and so that's my that's my starting point for this whole

conversation is I hate all the clothing and Julie's not even crazy about it she's

downright frugal and completely, what's the word,

she just, she does not own a lot of clothes. Like I'm not talking about I live with a shopaholic like a I mean a bona fide legitimate

that's a real thing shopaholic I do not live with one I live with a mom of six kids

that likes to make sure they're all clothed and she also likes to have clothes that you know she can wear and

feel good in end of story so we're not talking about a crazy situation I'm really

telling you that I'm crazy, really, in that I can't

stand any of it. I hate going to shop at stores. I hate how much new clothing there is all the

time when there's so much old clothing that's just

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