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Welcome to our three of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.

I'm Buck here in studio in NYC with Clay.

And we have been looking forward to this deep dive conversation into COVID.

Everything going on right now with the vaccines, the mandates, the masks, what works,

what does it, what does the data tell us with the one and only Alex Berenson.

You've probably seen him on Fox and you maybe have gotten unreported truths downloaded.

I recommend you do so on Amazon before they decide you can't.

You can also follow him on Substack.

Alex Berenson on Substack. He is just

a journalist who's been asking questions and gone against the consensus when the data

told him to, and he is here with us now in studio in New York. Alex, great to see you. It's a

pleasure. We're too good. Clay and I have both been talking to you now about this issue

for about 18 months. And we're going on a long time. Can we start with this, actually? Because we have so much. We're going to keep you. Like I said, a deep dive so you can actually have time. It's not a four-minute TV hit, such as it is. Masks. You got a lot of heat in the beginning. It seems like now finally people understand that this is almost like a religious symbol for most folks.

Is the data clear on this one?

Before we get into vaccines, can we just get into, if they had good mask data, wouldn't we know about it?

Has anybody been alive the last 18 months?

Didn't we all mask up for about 12 of those months?

And the virus came and went and

went and came and went? Masts are useless. They are useless. They're certainly useless to

keep you from getting sick and they are and they are almost as certainly useless to, you know,

prevent you from transmitting the virus to other people. Are there any of these that know, can I just ask, who are now willing to say that, at least, to you offline? Oh, yeah. I mean, absolutely. And by the way, we're not talking about what they call respirators, again, N95s. N95s may be marginally useful. I'm not willing to, you know, be as definitive about that. But when you,

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