The Cinderella Pacers Do It Again, Plus Trade Buzz From Indiana With Zach Lowe

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.5 • 29.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Zach Lowe to react to the Pacers taking a 2-1 lead against OKC in the NBA Finals (1:55). Then, they talk about Indianapolis as a sports city, Bennedict Mathurin’s impact, and SGA not playing well enough in Game 3 (24:28). Finally, they discuss what it would mean if OKC lost to the Pacers in the Finals, preview Game 4, and predict Kevin Durant trade destinations (51:05). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Zach Lowe Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo This episode is presented by State Farm®. Dishing the assists you need off the court. State Farm® with the Assist. Get anything delivered on Uber Eats. www.ubereats.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.9	It's the Bill Simmons podcast presented by the Ringer podcast network where you can find
0:35.5	Zach Lowe's podcast. Whoa, big free agent edition
0:38.8	in the beginning of April. Now we're in a hotel room in Indiana. We just watch a stunning NBA
0:43.9	finals game three. We have a very fancy tech setup. We're in my hotel room. I have my camera
0:51.0	face of me. I have Zach's iPad facing him. They said we would have needed a video crew, right?
0:56.5	We'd have people here.
0:57.3	We'd have mics.
0:57.9	We don't need that.
0:58.7	We have cups with strings, if need be attached to each other.
1:02.0	You know what?
1:02.3	We belong to the people.
1:03.5	We can just put this together.
1:04.7	We can just do this like the common man.
1:06.4	We just watched an incredible game. Ring her podcast network, check out the rewatchables. We put up working girl. When are you going to be in the rewatchables, by the way?
1:13.3	There's no one to ask me. People ask me this quick. Just ask me.
1:15.8	Well, you have to come to L.A. is the problem. I like it. I love Los Angeles.
1:19.5	Okay. Well, you're going to be in the rewatchables at some point. Anyway, coming up, about an incredible game three that we both went to. It's all next. Let's take a break.
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