Chuck Klosterman on the NBA Finals, a Rival League, the Sonics, 'The Rehearsal,' Cooper Flagg, and the Fear of AI

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.5 • 29.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 120 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chuck Klosterman to talk about the NBA's popularity and foul baiting (2:58), before they discuss the biggest sport franchise moves and the possibility of a new international basketball league (30:41). Then, they talk about Cooper Flagg, and ‘The Rehearsal’ (57:25). Finally, they dive into prison escapes and AI fears (1:24:15). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Chuck Klosterman Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo This episode is presented by State Farm®. Dishing the assists you need off the court. State Farm® with the Assist. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠ www.rghelp.com⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.9	The Bill Simmons podcast brought to you by the Ringer podcast network. I have Chuck
0:35.0	Kosterman coming on in a little bit. We have been doing podcast together since
0:38.7	I think I had a podcast in 2007. Initially, I think the first time when I got to know Chuck,
0:44.2	we did a back and forth email exchange. I'm going to say in 2004 when I was writing for page two.
0:50.6	And we did some back and forth in print. And then as soon as the podcast form, as soon as I
0:56.9	had my pod, which I think started May 2007, we started having long, long talks on the pod.
1:04.0	So this one is no different. We're going to be talking about a lot of MBA stuff. We talk about
1:08.5	Nathan Fielders, the rehearsal, talking about a lot about AI at the end.
1:13.6	Gets a little grim at the end, actually.
1:16.7	But I thought it was a worthy topic.
1:18.8	But anyway, this goes all over the place for the next two hours.
1:22.4	So that's coming up in a little bit.
1:23.8	I wanted to mention the rewatchables.
1:26.4	We put up Working Girl yesterday on the
1:28.5	rewatchables feed.
1:29.3	You can watch this video podcast as well.
1:31.6	I had a great time.
1:32.6	It was 20 minutes longer than the actual movie, which we usually try to make the episode
1:36.9	the same length as the movie.
1:38.9	We couldn't pull it off this time.
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