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So recent poll shows that religion is just not as important in this country as it used to be.

39% say that it's very important in the most recent Wall Street Journal survey.

And that's down 20 points since 1998. That's a huge decline.

So what's going on out there?

Why are we seeing that kind of change in people saying that religion is a less important

part of their life?

I would also note that money is the one thing that went up over that time period. So with that in mind and also

bringing in a larger context to this conversation, let's bring in Dallas Jenkins, who is

creator, director, and co-writer of The Chosen, which is the first multi-season series. There are

three seasons that are out about the life of Jesus of Nazareth. Dallas,

I am so grateful to you for this series. It has truly been a game changer for me and for my

family in the way that we look at the life of Jesus and the way that we talk about it with each

other and the way that we understand the gospel. So I thank you, first of all. Thank you very, very much for what you've done.

Oh, thank you so much for having me on. It's an honor. So I think, you know, one of the things that

is so great about what you've done with this series is that it makes Jesus kind of a regular guy, but God. And that's a tough thing to do.

I mean, this could have been a complete disaster, right? But it's not. It's just the tone is so perfect.

And Jonathan Rumi is so perfect. So I want to give people at home a sense who maybe haven't seen it

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