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Welcome to the Untold Story podcast, everybody.

And this is Martha McCallum. And I'm really glad to be joined today by my friend Guy Benson, who is Radio Fox extraordinaire and one of the most desired hosts on every one of our shows and has his own podcast and it's just an amazing friend and an amazing thinker. I was watching you on the panel the other night with Brett and you were reacting to some of the new entrance in the GOP side of this presidential race guy. And I wanted to sort of get your thoughts

on that because I'm watching this group expand. And then we've got this potential Trump indictment

possibly. I mean, nobody really knows for sure coming this week. So as you sit here today,

how do you look at this race? Well, I still look at this race the same way as I did before the

week started. And I know that Chris Christie's gotten in. Mike Pence has gotten in. There might be a few more

stragglers. But until we see any evidence otherwise, this is effectively a two-man race. It's Donald Trump in

the driver's seat in first place by a large

margin, although that margin is shrinking in a number of places based on some of the polling that I'm

seeing and I've been privy to. And then Ron DeSantis is that top challenger to him, which is why

basically all of the attacks, he'll throw some red meat out going after Christie on his weight or what have you, but every attack against someone else, Team Trump ties to and tries to tie in to Ron DeSantis, and they've been just hammer and tongs going after him for months for good reason.

They can read the polls like

anyone else. They can read their internal polls and show that, at least in their mind, the

demonstration of the data is that right now it's going to be either Trump or DeSantis unless someone

else catches fire. And, you know, I'm not going to sit here with any sort of crystal

ball and say that's impossible. And we have been surprised so many times in politics that I think

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