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Unchained

The Chopping Block: In Defense of Exponentials – Haseeb Reads His Viral Essay - Ep. 965

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This episode is a special one: Haseeb reads his new essay, In Defense of Exponentials, a manifesto pushing back against the rising financial cynicism dominating CT. He breaks down why new chains launch into unprecedented hate, why revenue-based valuation models misunderstand the nature of exponential technologies, and why believing in ETH, SOL, and open financial systems still makes sense. It’s a zoom-out moment for the space — a reminder that crypto’s exponential arc is far from over. Show highlights 🔹 Chain Hate Era — New L1s like Monad, Tempo, and MegaETH now launch into hostility, not indifference, reflecting a major psychological shift in crypto. 🔹 Financial Cynicism — CT has moved from “nothing has value” nihilism to “everything is overvalued” cynicism, insisting L1s trade 5–10× too high. 🔹 Revenue Meta = Linear Thinking — P/E ratios, REV metrics, and exchange-style valuation models misprice blockchains by treating exponentials like steady-state businesses. 🔹 Probability Premium — L1s are priced like biotech: a 1–5% chance of becoming the next ETH/SOL rationally supports multi-billion valuations. 🔹 The No-Prize Fallacy — CT’s new belief: even if a challenger chain wins, the prize is worthless because “ETH and SOL won’t be worth $300B anyway.” 🔹 Amazon Regime Misread — Amazon took 22 years to show profit; judging crypto on revenue today is the same error—arguing P/E ratios in an exponential curve. 🔹 Open Always Wins — Crypto turns money into a file format—24/7, global, permissionless—and every industry in history has eventually yielded to openness. 🔹 Believe in the Exponential — The core thesis: zoom out. Crypto’s exponential is still early, and long-term conviction is the edge everyone has forgotten. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly In Defense of Exponentials by Haseeb Qureshi  🔗 https://x.com/hosseeb/status/1994110900454949263  ⁠⁠Disclosures Timestamps 0:00 In Defense of Exponentials 01:05 The Cure is Worse than the Disease 07:10 Feeling the Exponential 16:23 So what exactly am I arguing?⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. This is a Sieb from the chopping block.

0:03.4

And today I'm doing a little bit of a special holiday episode. It's Thanksgiving weekend.

0:08.1

And I recently published a piece that I got some requests to do a reading of.

0:12.3

So I thought it might be a nice little gesture, a little break from this market to have a little bit of a kind of deep dive article.

0:19.6

So this article is titled, In Defense of Exponentials.

0:25.4

I used to tell founders, the reaction you're going to get to your launch is not hate, it's indifference.

0:30.8

By default, nobody cares about your new chain. I have to stop telling them that now.

0:35.8

Monad launched this weekend. I've never seen so much hate about a blockchain that just launched.

0:39.3

I've been investing in a crypto professionally for seven plus years now.

0:42.3

Before 2023, almost every chain I've ever seen that launched was mostly met with enthusiasm or indifference.

0:49.3

But now, new chains are born into a chorus of hate.

0:52.3

The amount of haters I've seen for projects like Monad, Tempo, Mega-Eath, before they even hit Mainnet, is a genuinely new phenomenon. I've been trying to diagnose, why is this happening now? And what does it mean about the psychology of the market? The cure is worse than the disease. Forewarning, this is going to be the vaguest blockchain valuation post you have ever read. I don't have any fancy metrics or charts to sell you on. Instead, I'll be arguing against the zeitgeist of crypto-Twitter, which for the last couple of years I've been constantly on the opposite side of. In 2024, I felt like what I was arguing against was financial nihilism. Financial nihilism is the belief that

1:28.6

none of these assets matter. It's all memes at the end of the day, and everything we've built is inherently

1:33.1

worthless. Thankfully, that's no longer the vibe. We've broken out of that spell. But the zeitgeist now

1:39.1

is what I'd call financial cynicism. Okay, maybe some of this stuff has value, maybe it's not all memes, but it's grossly overvalued, and it's only a matter of time before Wall Street finds that out. Not that all these chains are worthless, but these things are all maybe worth one-fifth to one-tenth what they're currently trading at. Have you seen these P.E. ratios? And so you better pray like hell that Wall Street doesn't call us on our bluff,

2:02.2

because once they do, it's all getting wiped out.

2:05.6

You've got many bullish analysts now,

2:07.6

trying to conjure up optimistic L1 valuation models,

2:10.4

inflating PE ratios, gross margins, DCFs, trying to fight against this mood.

2:15.3

Late last year, Salana proudly embraced REV as a metric that could finally justify their valuation.

2:21.4

They proudly announced, we and only we, are no longer bluffing to Wall Street.

2:26.1

And, of course, almost immediately after RAV was embraced, it fell off a cliff,

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