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The Saga of World War 2: a Casus Belli Project

The China Update: Part 1

The Saga of World War 2: a Casus Belli Project

Cassus Belli Guy

History

4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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In this episode we fill in the blanks in China, catching up on how China found itself at war with Japan in 1937 Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and thank you once again for listening to the saga of World War

0:03.6

2 a Cassus belly project. To start we have a correction from Scott who informed me that the

0:09.3

USS Phoenix had six inch guns not eight inch guns. It was in fact a Brooklyn class light cruiser

0:15.0

and thus had 15 six inch guns. I'm not sure why I thought the Phoenix was a heavy, but thanks for the correction

0:21.5

nonetheless.

0:23.5

So in this episode, we're talking about China.

0:26.1

We're in nearly 50 episodes in, and I think I've spent a total of maybe 10 minutes talking

0:30.1

about one of the largest theaters in the war in terms of both land area and people involved.

0:35.1

The only real mention China's gotten was back in episode 15 and 16 when I

0:39.0

talked about Japan's rise in early war. The war in China was absolutely massive. It lasted

0:44.0

eight years and 14 million Chinese died during the conflict with Japan. Not only that,

0:49.4

the Chinese played a material role not only in defeating Japan, but ensuring the survival of the

0:53.9

Soviet Union

0:54.7

to defeat Nazi Germany. For many in the West, the role China played in the war is often

1:00.8

downplayed, or treated like an afterthought, when in reality, they were regarded as a major ally

1:05.8

in the war, and Chiang Kai Shek was treated as something like an equal between Roosevelt, Churchill,

1:09.8

and Stalin.

1:16.4

For some reason, in the post-war reckoning of the war, China's story faded, likely due to Cold War politics and the eventual triumph of Mao Zedong and the communists, who themselves

1:20.4

wanted to downplay the nationalist achievements. At the time, however, China was given

1:25.8

greater credit for its part, I think.

1:29.2

Going back to the late 1930s, China's fight against Japan was considered a part of the global

1:33.4

struggle against authoritarianism, spiritually linked to the Spain of Civil War and the fight

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