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And I'm Gabi.

And welcome back to a patron exclusive episode of the podcast, my friends.

Hello to everyone here from Italy, actually, which is where

we're recording this, literally in a side bedroom in Milan in, God, I don't know how to explain this.

It's an Airbnb type place, and the walls are paper thin, so we're hiding out and a little,

like, tiny second room. The kids' room. We're in the kids' room right now because there's less echo in here.

And simultaneously, there's less children noises from across the very thin walls, as Gabby just said.

Yeah, it's something.

Okay.

Well, speaking of a lot of pain points that obviously we are experiencing, you know,

we also had a lot of pain points in history, which it's actually very ironic that we are where we are in what is easily one of the biggest hearts of Catholicism in like history.

Like we are literally in Milan, Italy right now.

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