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The Census and what does 'rare' mean?

More or Less

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News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2012

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Why was the estimate, in 2003, for Eastern Europeans coming to the UK so wrong? Which is better when communicating information words or numbers? Nassim Taleb explains anti-fragility And we'll debunk the oft quoted 'you're never more than 6ft from a rat'

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0:00.0

Thanks for downloading this edition of More or Less. This is the version from BBC Radio 4.

0:06.8

Here's Tim Halford.

0:08.7

Hello and welcome to More or Less, opening the curtains and letting the light in on

0:13.5

murky statistics and the lazy use of numbers. This week we commit an act of more or less

0:19.8

heresy by admitting that sometimes words are better than numbers. And we'll be wiping the smug

0:25.8

smile off the faces of these laughing rats.

0:32.2

But first, the census data released this week shows that the number of foreign-born

0:36.5

residents in England and Wales has risen by nearly three million since 2001 to seven and a half

0:42.4

million people. A third of these new arrivals, that's one million, are from the European countries

0:47.2

that have joined the EU since 2004. A few would have arrived before EU accession but most came after.

0:54.4

Compare this wave of immigration to the number the labour government was expecting back in 2003.

1:00.4

It said net migration from those countries would be between five and thirteen thousand each year.

1:06.4

Even if the higher figure had been right, the total number would now only be

1:10.3

91,000, less than a tenth of the actual figure. So how did they get it so wrong?

1:17.1

The estimate was based on work by researchers at University College London and the Centre for

1:21.5

Research and Analysis on Migration. The problem was they had very little decent data to rely on.

1:27.1

There were no migration figures for the ten countries who were due to join in 2004.

1:31.2

The team had to go on what migrants from other countries in different political and economic

1:35.5

circumstances had done in the past. If you look at the original report, it's loaded with

1:39.9

caveats. But alas, the politicians, the media and the chaturality don't do caveats.

1:45.5

It's the number that people remember.

1:47.7

The lead author was Christian Dustman. He says one of the difficulties was that migration

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