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Joseph Pierce joins us today. He is director of book publishing at the Augustine Institute,

an author of biographies of Shakespeare, Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, Hilaire Beloc, and others. His new book

is Faith of Our Fathers, A History of True England. That is our topic today. Welcome, Mr. Pierce. It's good to be here.

Thanks for having me. On this show, we dive right into the book. First, you say true England.

Can you tell us what is false England? Yes. So basically, true England is that aspect of England

and English history, which has been true to the truth

himself. In other words, I'm taking objectivity to be something which directly connects to

Jesus Christ. There we are. That, you know something? That is a refreshingly clear and direct answer to a nice historiographical question. Thank you.

So now you approach, actually you approach this history. It sort of takes off on what you just said.

Assuming that England was, is and will be part of a, quote, cosmological passion play.

What do you mean by that?

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