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Optimist Economy

The Cash-for-Kids Study: Misread and Misrepresented

Optimist Economy

Kathryn Anne Edwards and Robin Rauzi

Public Policy, Economics, Government, Economy

4.9829 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

You might have heard recently that a years-long poverty study “found” that giving $333 monthly to kids with poor parents didn’t make a difference. But here's why that’s the wrong takeaway: The "Baby's First Years" study wasn't designed to test cash payments. It is multi-year, ongoing scientific research into how poverty affects child development. Researchers found "selective impacts on preschoolers' brain activity with possibly different impacts across brain frequency bands" — which roughly translates to "this is incredibly complicated and we're still figuring it out," not "money is useless." And yet this rigorous research got reduced to a talking point amid an ongoing policy debate on child tax credits and what it means to lift kids out of poverty.

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0:00.0

Wait, you are a vegetarian, though, right?

0:02.4

No, I'm just a lesbian.

0:07.9

It's so hard to keep track.

0:11.1

I know.

0:12.3

I know.

0:17.1

Hello, and welcome to Optimist Economy. I'm Catherine. I'm Robin. On this show, we believe the U.S. economy can be better, and we talk about how to get there one problem and solution at a time.

0:39.6

We do have some announcements.

0:41.0

Hard to beat last week.

0:42.3

Hard to beat last week.

0:44.9

If you missed last week, ha, go back.

0:51.4

The other things we need to say are that we are going to record a Q&A episode. We'll be recording that in probably in about a week by the time you hear

0:55.1

this one. So if you have a question for, probably for Catherine, you could ask me things about,

1:01.9

I don't know, editing cats and growing avocados. You can email those to us at optimist.

1:07.8

com or you can call us at 202-643-0295. We're also collecting

1:16.9

audio reviews to put together a promo for the show. So we love the reviews you've left for us,

1:22.4

and we would love to have audio versions of those or brand-new creative ones. In fact, this week we got a great

1:28.4

review on Apple podcast that said, I have Catherine and Robin to thank for making consuming leisure

1:33.5

part of my everyday vocabulary. And I want you to know, I have Catherine to thank for making

1:37.7

a part of mine. Ruining conversation, one bit of vocabulary at a time. Exactly, one bit of econ jargon

1:45.4

at a time. One more quick announcement. We also have two spiritual sponsors this week,

1:50.3

Michael Hart from East Windsor, New Jersey, and Mason from New York City. Thanks to both of you

1:55.3

for supporting optimist economy. Next up is retcon. Wait, what's 23 reasons? Oh, right. Sorry. I read this article over the

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