Hello and welcome to a special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots.

I'm Katie Entries and I'm joined by our editor, Fraser Nelson.

And we're delighted to have with us historian and author, Johan Norberg,

who has just published the capitalist manifesto

while the global free market will save the world.

Johan, we're very happy to have you with us this evening.

If listeners can hear some glasses clinking outside,

we have a subscriber-only event tonight down in the boardroom

where Johan, Fraser and I will be in conversation,

talking about his book and taking some questions from the audience

and of course, and of course, enjoying a glass of wine.

Johan, when we last met, I believe it was October 2020

and it was in a Swedish cafe.

I was visiting Stockholm and you very kindly agreed to do a coffee house shots back then.

It was a very strange experience for me because everything was open.

Nobody was masked up, there was no social distancing.

This is how Sweden was living but virtually the rest of the world was completely locked down.

Now at the time you had just published a book called Open

and it was looking at how the openness of countries towards trade, towards ideas

was what made them so successful.

Now when I was reading your new book, the capitalist manifesto,

I felt like you were peeling back a layer.

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