Having run an abortion service for 17 years, there are very, very few women who will

come back and basically say, I really wish I hadn't done that.

The number of women who contact us and say, thank you for enabling me to put my life

back on track. It's huge.

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kissen.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant guest today is a former chief executive of the British Pregnancy Advisory

Service. And for Eddie, the problem we have with this episode is we lost the footage

we had from the main camera. We were already fired. Our producer for the hundredth time

hasn't helped. So in this episode, everything is as normal. The only thing is you won't

see us front on, which I'm sure will be a relief.

And for Eddie, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you very much for having me. It's great to have you on. You know that we interviewed

Dr. Callum Miller recently who has a very different position to you and abortion.

I think it's fair to say. I think it's fair to say he does.

And we had a long discussion where we were kind of probing some of his arguments. And

at the end of it, in fact, at the beginning, I said, this is our first foray into this.

We're going to get someone on who has a different view. And at the end of it, he actually

said, well, I can recommend you some people who disagree with me vehemently, but who are

very good? And you were right at the top of that list. So welcome to the show.

Thank you very much indeed.

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