Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And in a second,

we're going to hear from my friend, Ali Hoffman, for a wonderful conversation about the world of

relationships and dating. And I think this is useful no matter where you are in life. So if you're

married and have kids happily married or happily coupled up, I think this will give you a window into the world of people or not.

And just what that's like, what are alternative ways people are starting to link up,

what are people looking for from a very thoughtful community member.

And obviously if you are single or unmarried, there's a lot there.

And Allie's wonderful, super kind, and is running a really

fascinating community for people and trying to get at the problem of how do we pair people

up without dating apps? So we'll hear from her in a second. Now, before we do, I have a book

coming out in September called The Invisible List. This is all about how after I was running

schools, I tackled one new passion, skill, or hobby every single year, and I applied to that

effort, everything I knew about learning. And I would have these big, and I still do, have these

big goals at the end of the year. It could be read a novel, which is where

Garbage Town came from, learn surfing, tennis, biochemistry, powerlifting where I'll compete in a

competition or cooking where I did a pop-up restaurant. So it's part memoir, so I tell the story about all

of that, but it's also part how to. That's the most important part of the book, which is,

what can you do

to tackle the items on your list, whatever those items may be? And how do you even get those

items down? And it's for people of all walks of life. I profile people in this book who are in the

middle of fighting cancer while going through this and have multiple kids, multiple jobs.

And then I profile people who are retired or people who are young, people with money,

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