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Cancel any time, tease and sees apply. Hello and welcome to Rational Security, the Carpet Bombs and Chicken Hawks edition. I'm Shane Harris of a daily

beast. Not a fan of either by the way.

But, the chicken hawks or carpet bombing.

Really just could do without them. That was not a chicken you just heard by the way. It was a chicken

hawk. It was definitely a chicken hawk. My good friend tomorrow coffin what is noted

chicken hawk. They're native to Washington. They sure are were they grow, they run wild into streets.

In Las Vegas. Yeah, on cable TV apparently. They sure do. Boy, they just flock to it.

And we're joined by a very special guest this week. He's going to come in

handy for us explaining this crazy, crazy presidential debate that we had last night and

also what else is going on in our world. Will McCants, the Brookings Institution, hello, and the author of the excellent, the ISIS

Apocalypse, the history strategy, and doomsday vision of the Islamic State, which if you listen

to this podcast, you probably already know about

Wills book you probably read Wills book but we're really thrilled to have you here thank you

thank you Brad will is standing in for Ben who is where they was Ben? Israel I think.

Oh Israel okay.

Yeah.

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