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the Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Emma Dowling.

We talked about her new book, The Care Crisis, What Caused It and How Can We End It?

We chatted about the scale of the care crisis today, how social reproduction theory can help

us to make sense of the crisis, and we also talked about how conservatives conceive of care

and of how they believe practices of care should be undertaken.

Today's show is brought to you by PTO supporters on Patreon and also by Verso Books,

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And now to today's interview.

Emma Dowling teaches sociology at the University of Vienna,

and has previously lived and worked in the UK.

Her writing focuses on feminist

political economy, emotions and work, financialisation, and the politics of social change.

The Care Crisis is her first book. Firstly, could you just say something on the origins of the book

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