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and Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

Two guests today. In the first half of today's show, I'll be speaking with the writer Melissa

Jira Grant about her article in The New Republic, Sarah Everard, and the useless generality of male

violence. We talked about the importance of not seeing Wayne Cousins' role as a police officer

as merely incidental to the murder of Everard, and we also talked about why carceral feminist

approaches that seek to combat male violence throughard, and we also talked about why carceral feminist approaches

that seek to combat male violence through the police and the courts are doomed to fail.

In the second part of today's show, I spoke with writer and activist Shadine Taylor Stone

about her recent article in Navarra Media. People are waking up to the horrors of police brutality.

It's time to build a movement.

We talked about the social media reaction to the initial vigil for Sarah Everard on Clapham Common and how the struggle against police violence and violence against women in general

requires the building of a mass movement of collective struggle that cuts across different

identities. Today's show is brought to you by PTO's supporters on Patreon and also

by Haymarket Books, who have lots of excellent titles that may be of interest to PTO listeners.

One that you might like to check out is We Do This Till We Free Us by Mariam Carver.

More people are discussing prison abolition today than ever before.

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