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The Lawfare Podcast

The Capitol Police and the Enduring Effects of Jan. 6

The Lawfare Podcast

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History, Military, International Relations, Government, Constitutional Law, News, International Law, Current Events, Politics, Rule Of Law, Law, Foreign Policy, Diplomacy, National Security, Intelligence, Terrorism

4.7 β€’ 6.4K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Over the last year, our national dialogue about the Jan. 6 Capitol attack has become ever more focused on politics, congressional investigations and criminal prosecutions. But what about the people who were actually on the front lines on Jan. 6?

Natalie Orpett sat down with Susan Dominus and Luke Broadwater, who recently published an article in The New York Times Magazine called, β€œThe Capitol Police and the Scars of Jan. 6.” The article tells the stories of some of the law enforcement officers who were there that day, many of whom continue to experience the impact of Jan. 6 in profoundly personal ways. They talked about what they learned through their reporting and what it means for ongoing efforts to respond to the attack.

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no bull and the aftermath.

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They felt so betrayed by their own country, the same country that many of them who were

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veterans had signed up to serve, had made a life of serving and they felt directly betrayed

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as well by the federal agency that oversaw them.

0:49.6

I think we were supposed to be looking out for them.

0:52.2

We're just not looking out for them.

0:54.0

They're not sufficiently, not adequately, not competently, not with enough concern and

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care and they were changed and they were hurt and they were damaged in ways that they

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knew would stay with them for a very long time.

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Both emotional and just their perspective on life, which is painful and not nothing

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and sort of existential, but also at a really physical level.

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Some of them are in chronic pain.

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Some of them have the aftermath of concussions that have left them with volatile personalities

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much more so than they had been before.

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I felt like a lot of these officers felt unrecognizable to themselves.

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That was how much the events of that day had changed them.

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I'm Natalie Orpett and this is the LawFair podcast, January 25th, 2022.

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Over the last year, our national dialogue about the January 6th Capitol attack has become

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