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If you would have told me in college that I would one day be sitting at a table across from Mary Ellen Mark, I think I would have had a hard time believing you.

Mary Ellen Mark, for me, when I was in college, was one of the penultimate photographers

for me.

I had many of her monographs, and I never got tired of looking at her work.

There was just something special about the portraits she made and there's a story she told

with her camera that I wasn't seeing anywhere else.

And throughout the years, she's always been one of my go-to people for inspiration.

So recently when she was in Los Angeles for the inaugural of the LICA store here in Los Angeles,

I had the opportunity to schedule an interview with her at the hotel where she was staying at,

and we met over breakfast where we had the conversation that you're going to be listening to in a few minutes.

It's one of those interviews where I'm so excited. I can feel the nervous butterflies in my

stomach. I was feeling them as I was driving there. But within a short order, I think that

we just sat down and we just talked about something we have a mutual love for, which is photography.

And if you're a fan of hers, you're in for a treat.

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