Hi, everyone. We will get to Jam Session in just a second, but first I would like to tell you about two very exciting things happening at the ringer.

One of them involves my Jam Session co-host Juliett Lippman, who as you may know also hosts Bachelor party, a podcast about the Bachelor and the Bachelor at and the Universe.

She had a podcast this week with Rob Mills, who is the SVP of alternative programming at ABC and they were talking about this season of the Bachelorette,

and also a bit about the recent casting controversies on the Bachelorette, which if you're not familiar with those,

Melissa Barraznack wrote a feature for the ringer about the mess that is reality TV casting right now.

So I recommend the podcast and the feature, a nice little combo for you, and then you'll be all caught up on everything reality TV.

And now let's get into Jam Session.

Welcome to Jam Session!

I'm Juliett Lippman. I'm Amanda Dobbins.

It's summer. Everyone is just really enjoying summer in the celebrity space, wouldn't you say?

They really are, and we're gonna do it vicariously.

Yes, we are. We are indeed.

I just returned from Las Vegas, where I was not having a great time, but I feel like I got a glimpse of how the celebs do it,

because I saw a lot of MBA players walking around and stuff.

You got a sense of the glitz and the glamour.

I was not experiencing it, but I could see it.

Right. I can see other people enjoying it.

So I'm really tapped into this head space right now, also personally planning some vacations.

I want to make clear that this kind of summer podcast is more about the beach and not about Vegas.

Oh, definitely.

Yeah, in case I don't know.

Don't recommend going to Vegas for life.

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